reproduce an interview from the site of the committee "Dossetti" FOR THE CONSTITUTION
Read "ad personam": interview with the lawyer Carlo Taormina
Posted March 13, 2010 by Director
Here is an interview with Carlo Taormina, a lawyer (sorry) of Berlusconi and former parliamentary
"I know the way that Berlusconi calls to his lawyers to make laws ad personam, because until a few years ago he asked me.
And contrary to what he says in public, with his lawyers have no problem saying they're more for him. This is why today I say this with full knowledge of: rules are what they are doing on a personal basis. "
Carlo Taormina, 70, was one of the lawyers leading the Knights until 2008, when he gave up the prime minister and his lap - coming out by Parliament - as a result of what he now calls' a moral crisis. " Now free from political constraints, in this interview with "itrainsfrogs" says what he thinks and knows about Berlusconi and his laws.
Lawyer, what is your opinion on the two rules that the prime minister is moving these days, the process quick and such failure?
'corrects: the rules that he needs to complete his drawing three. She has forgotten the Lodo Alfano Bis, be approved as constitutional law, which is vital. "
Let me explain.
'quick start with the process: it is just a trial balloon, a threat that Berlusconi used to obtain a legitimate impediment. The process was quick but I'll bet that the Senate approved the House did not even scheduling, in fact end up in a drawer. "
And why?
"Because the process is the only quick to raise the price of the deal. At one point in the process give up quick to get in return for such failure, ie the possibility of non-appearance at hearings of its processes and achieve continual postponements. Look, the deal is already in progress el'Udc, for example, said that if he renounces the process short, vote in favor of legitimate impedimentoı.
And then what happens? What does it matter the Alfano encore?
"You see, the law on such failure is clearly unconstitutional, and therefore Check boccerà. But meanwhile, remain in force for at least a year and a half just to the rejection of the Constitutional Court. And in the meantime, Berlusconi will pass the Lodo Alfano a, as constitutional law, and untouchable by the Advisory Body. "
Let me understand: Berlusconi is doing a law - the legal impediment-he already knows to be unconstitutional?
"Exactly. It can not be a constitutional law in which the condition of the impediment is a charge, in this case the chairman of the board. No way. The ground for which you may postpone a hearing is a commitment that day or those days, not a charge. For example, when I I had government posts, which I had many interviews did you attend on Saturday, what's the problem? It can hold hearings on Sundays. Any person, whatever his position, has at least one free afternoon per week. Instead of going to see AC Milan, Berlusconi could go to his audiences. And then, following the logic of this law, the practice of obtaining references could be extended almost indefinitely. Why would a mayor, for example, should accept to be processed? Perhaps for his city its institutional commitments are less important? And so on. In short, this law does not stand, is bound to a rejection of the consultation. And Berlusconi knows this, but meanwhile the passes and used for a bit 'of time, until just does not pass the Lodo Alfano a, with which the system permanently. "
How can you be so sure?
"I have worked for years for Berlusconi, I know his strategies. When I was her counselor and asked me to write the laws that protect you from the judges, was not sure of their purpose on a personal mystery. And I wrote them to him even better than they do now Ghedini and sheep. "
Type?
"That on legitimate suspicion, I think we were in 2002. He needed to move their processes from Milan to Rome. He asked us to openly and we, the faithful executor of the will Prince, we got to write it. And we also did a nice job, I must say, everything seemed fine. Then one evening in late October, at 11, got a call from Ciampi.
who was then President of the Republic.
"Exactly. E Ciampi asked for a change. "
So?
"So I told Berlusconi that the change would be served in anything. He thought for a bit 'and then said, "Meanwhile, let's do so, then you see." I was right: in fact the law passed with amendments and those not served at all. "
Repentant?
"Look, my experience to Parliament and the government has been very interesting, almost from the scientific point of view. But many things I did not at that time would do more. I'm not embarrassed to say that I lived a moral crisis, culminating when I saw how she was structuring the smaller Knight's entourage.
Who are you referring?
"A Cicchitto, in Bondi, Denis Verdini, but also Ghedini and Sheehan. Celebrities who have taken over and heavily influencing the premier. It led him to marginalize - to take out politically - people like Martin, Pisanu and Pera. And now are working on Schifani.
Please?
"Yes, the next one will be out Schifani. At the end of the legislature will go the way of Pera and Pisanu.
But there are still three and a half years at the end of term ...
"I do not think so. I think that just settled her personal issues, let's say in 2011, Berlusconi will go to early elections. "
And why?
"Why should do until the opposition is so weak, even nonexistent. So he wins one more time and can wait calmly Napolitano's mandate runs out in three years, and take his place. "
Help: Berlusconi is telling me that we have for 2020?
'E' that it points to. And in the absence of a strong opposition can get there safely.
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